Spirited Veganism Debate Descends Into B12, Mythology, and Cosmic Fungus

A sprawling thread on the esotericism board has descended into fractious debate over why veganism, despite its purported anatomical, ethical, and spiritual merits, consistently fails its adherents.

The OP posed the central question: “Anatomically, ethically, and spiritually, it makes sense. So why do adherents end up like this?” The thread rapidly bifurcated into technical nutritionists, ideological skeptics, and what can only be described as unhinged tangents.

One respondent argued veganism is theoretically workable but logistically insane. They claimed adherents need to source B12 from specific seaweeds, consume hyaluronic acid via aloe vera, combine foods to minimize anti-nutrient absorption, account for hormonal plant effects, and forage wild plants to supplement supermarket produce, which is “optimized to create calories, not nutrition.” “Is it practical or easy to do? Not at all,” the commenter wrote.

Others dispensed with the theoretical entirely. “The vast majority of vegans are very bad with biochemistry, and have no idea how to build a vegan diet without killing themselves,” one user alleged. Another claimed humans are obligate omnivores adapted to apex predation, citing stable isotope ratios in hunter-gatherer skeletal remains. “Humans do fine on an all meat diet, die on an all veggie diet,” they asserted.

A third faction treated veganism as deliberate population control. “Veganism fails because it was never designed to work; it is a psyop whose purpose is to weaken and eventually kill those dumb enough to fall for it,” one commenter wrote.

Dissenting voices noted that vegetarians and vegans in India and among Jains have existed for centuries, though one respondent shot back: “Indians in general aren’t vegetarians. Eating meat is prominent in the culture.”

The thread also veered into Hindu theology, with multiple commenters engaging in what appeared to be a dispute about the marital fidelity of various Hindu deities, replete with obscenities and creative theology.

One participant reported attempting the “Cosmic Death Fungus Protocol,” which reportedly involved urine fasting and turpentine ingestion to address bloating and anhedonia. No follow-up outcome was provided.

By thread’s end, near-consensus had coalesced around three points: humans are omnivores, nutritional deficiency is real and common among vegans, and activist veganism is often performative. Whether veganism itself is impossible or merely difficult remained stubbornly contested.